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John West's avatar

Thanks Eddy.

It seems also that the final election results, which lumps the LNP, CLP, Nationals and Liberals together underplays the dire decline in the Liberal vote, which must have been barely 26% last election.

With current polling under Ley, it must be closer to 22%. The current electoral system (which I do not actually like) in single member electorates will make it near impossible for the Liberals to win back metropolitan or regional city voters outside of QLD.

As David has said previously, it may be a situation similar to the UAP after their defeat in 1943, wholly discredited there may be a new party formed.

But without proportional representation and an increasingly fractured electorate, the 65% that vote against Labor will cede 100% of the power to the ALP. This is disastrous as the ALP is fairly mediocre at the moment. They look only reasonable in comparison to their key opposition.

David Lewis: Cultural Notes's avatar

I am reminded of Marx’s opening sentence in the 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon , paraphrasing - history repeats. The first time as tragedy. The second time as farce.

Elizabeth Chandler's avatar

Exactly correct . This particular version of the “do as little as possible “ Labor Party does not deserve to have power either ,

just because it is marginally more endurable than the Liberal Party . The Labor Party has nothing to boast about re its

Climate Action policies , or housing the homeless. Corporations are calling the tune here as well .

Bruce Keogh's avatar

Today, I posted an article on my ‘Laugh or Cry’ Substack that might be of interest to readers.

It’s along similar lines to this, with emphasis on what I call the “mental defectiveness” of the Liberal hard-right.

It’s a highly critical, no-holds-barred piece on the demise of the party.

Hope you like it …

https://www.laugh-or-cry.com/p/hard-right-conservatives-mental-defectiveness

David Lewis: Cultural Notes's avatar

A good read. Thanks Bruce.

Elizabeth Chandler's avatar

Nailed the situation 💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 At one point you mentioned “intellectual rigour” . In any of the proposed Liberal/National Party leaders this is a breathtaking lack , along with their total lack of interest in the many sections of the public who are doing it tough . It’s as if they haven’t cottoned on to the fact that they are elected to serve the People, not merely billionaire fossil fuel corporations .

MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

The Liberals seem determined to prove they are unfit to govern.

The only Liberal branch doing well is Qld where Crisafulli has given the hardliners just enough to keep them quiet, while suppressing their more extreme demands.

The Tasmanian Liberal government could fall at any time, while the NT mob seem weak.

Other branches could meet in a phone box, their numbers are so tiny.

This is what happens when you cling to a past model which failed then, but they keep repeating it. Tony Abbott was a destructive Opposition leader, but such a miserable failure as PM that he was sacked by his own party.

Turnbull went back to the centre, did well, but was kneecapped by the hardliners, and it was downhill from then on, includingthe absurd campaign of lies against the Voice.

Albanese has shown that voters reward careful, methodical, competent, central government. The WA Labor Government of McGowan and Cook is similar.

When the Left says you are too timid on reform, but the Right says you are too radical, then you are in the successful centre.

The Liberals must turn their backs on extremists like One Nation and move back towards the centre if they are to win back government.

Right now, they are just wandering in the wilderness.