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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Why has it come to this? Because Israel should have been called to account in 1948 for its genocidal, sadistic, terroristic, blood-drenched foundation and it was not.

It has continued to terrorise, brutalise, rape, torture, murder, steal, destroy, occupy, colonise and the world has let it get away with it. Why would they not become more and more depraved and debased, believing as they do in their own victimhood, supremacism and ability to commit any crime and for it to be accepted, indeed, funded, by the world at large.

Israel is a monster the world supported in conception, foundation and function and now the world must dismantle it completely.

Roslyn Ross's avatar

Any time spent in what is called Israel and with Israelis makes it very clear that the State, society and culture are a Cult and one sourced in psychopathic, narcissistic, increasingly psychotic beliefs and behaviour.

WMan's avatar

While the pathetic apologies mouthed by Albanese and Wong are appalling, equally odious is the silence of the leaders of the Liberal Party and One Nation.

I would rather chew razor blades than vote for Labor, Liberals or One Nation.

The only principled party left in Australian politics are the Greens.

Niemoller's Ghost's avatar

Israelis have allowed themselves to be taken over by decades of childhood indoctrination effectively teaching them that 'everyone's against us, so we must kill all resistance or be killed'.

That's reached the voter and now even institutional leadership stages of inculcation. To save Israel from genocidal Zionism now, you'd need the many courtrooms, prisons, and re-educators of a Nuremberg trials. And the USA is rather busy right now, what with being the main accessory to those war crimes (not to mention main perpetrator in many other war crimes), so salvation for Israel is probably not happening, unless Israelis can organize an internal revolution in compassion, like Gandhi: 'God forbid that India should ever take to industrialism after the manner of the West. The economic imperialism of a single tiny island kingdom is today keeping the world in chains.' 'Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as is cooperation with good.'

Aussies have allowed ourselves to be taken over by decades of US (& Israel) imperialism and Neoliberalism, legally and financially and politically mostly (not The Greens and a few others) teaching us that dehumanization is OK, so long as no war crime or fossil fuel profits (mostly for foreign companies who pay FA tax) get hurt. This has changed too little in half a century:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MWnSKDsURg

But Australia has retained the ability to save ourselves. We still retain geographical isolation to enable a separation from US 'protection', and sufficient human and natural resources to break free of these systemic harms, and make less criminal arrangements with local Pacific & Asian friends who still respect peace and democracy, and who will work multilaterally with us, rather than treat us as an imperial footstool.

https://ipan.org.au/end-aukus/

James Wilkes's avatar

The penultimate integrity test has arrived, delivered by Ben-Gvir. What will Albanese and Wong do now? There is no diplomatic solution available for navigating your way around terrorists. There is no excuse in all of humanity for supporting murderers who delight in committing genocide and war crimes. None, it is a solid red line. Removing all forms of support - financial, economic, trade, travel, economic - and denouncing Zionists and their murderous behaviour to the world should be automatic. It is the Australian way. We fight for the underdog, we believe in a fair-go for all. The fact that this has not happened is deeply troubling. It should be a concern for every Australian. Albanese and Wong stand on a precipice here. Their actions will now speak much louder than their words. Tick-tock, tick-tock.

Spunty's avatar

And they're fucking wrong. Israel has no legal right to defend itself, being the invader and oppressor. The Palestinians do however, have a legal right to armed resistance. For all the bullshit talk about "international law", you'd think our politicians would know this... but then... all that lovely Zionist 💰💰💰 might disappear.

MICHAEL'S CURIOUS WORLD's avatar

I agree Israel has a right to defend itself.

Ukraine also has a right to defend itself.

Australia has a right to defend itself.

That means Iran also has a right to defend itself.

Gaza has a right to defend itself.

Lebanon has a right to defend itself.

If Australia is to be fair and consistent, it must defend the right of ALL nations to defend themselves.